Voluntary Euthanasia/Assisted Suicide Sarcastic Dots: This debate never seems to die, and recently Tony Nicklinson, a British man who suffers from "locked-in syndrome", was denied the ability to partake in voluntary euthanasia. The sad things about these debates are that, morally, both sides are deeply passionate about their views, and for that reason, a victory for either side can feel hollow. For me, I don't really have a problem with assisted suicide for terminally ill patience that demand it-- after all, the act of suicide could be viewed as cowardice, but it certainly isn't preventable. Here is a video of the man in question (WARNING: prepare to be depressed): (Edited by Sarcastic Dots)  Rebecca_76: i wont say i can understand how he feels cuz ive never been in that position. I think i would feel the same has him tho. However, you need to also consider the right of the doctor/nurse to not deliberately take a life....thats not something I would feel comfortable with.....n rightly so?  Aura: Sure, the doc/nurse should not be obligated to help in this if he or she feels it's against their profession. There are those who feel that, since quality of life is so low, they are giving the last possible care to the patient and would help without any problems. However, by saying that an medical professional cannot help with ending a life, you basically say :If you want to do it, do it on your own. That will leave the body to be found/dealt with by people who have no training whatsoever and probably have never or rarely come in contact with the dead. A whole lot less comfortable for them if you ask me. This is a messy situation with no clear answers. But if someone has made up their minds to stop living and is considerate enough to want to do it in a way that would be least inconvenience those around them, it is just cruel to say he cannot do it. Rebecca_76: I don't think that the "dealing with the dead body" is the issue. The issue is killing someone, who is not dying. I don't believe that anyone should ever comfortable enough to take a life. There's a big difference in withholding treatment, which allows people to die of natural causes and assisted suicide, which is killing someone. Also, i've seen, idk how many, but a lot of people die, n the way you deal with it, is by knowing that you did your best for them. That you made them as comfortable as possible. N even then certain things, IE when its a young person, or someone who's frightened, u never forget that. Its stressful. We re only human....don't assume that cuz we see people die that it wouldn't bother us to kill someone. Its completely different. xox G xox: I read/saw this the other day. His body, his wishes ......that should be all that counts. Aura: Rebecca, are you by any chance a nurse? Because I do understand where you are coming from really I do. I'm a pharmacy technician and I have a slichtly different perspective. See I know my patients when all is aling them is a cold, or maybe a family member has a cold and they come to pick up something for them. You chat with them, laugh with them and some really do become friends. And then suddenly one is diagnosed with cancer and you really see them fading away before your eyes. They are really missarable, their families are missarable and you feel really shitty when a guy who used to enter with so much noise and good spirit comes in and can not get his voice louder than a whisper and never smiles anymore. I've been to funerals where they did commit suicide, slit their wrists because the sleeping pills we give em are not enough to do the job on their own (by law) even if they do drink a bottle of whiskey on top of it. The death of the patients is sad, but it was comming anyway. They just didn't want the pain and prolonged suffering that 'doing your best for them' would provide. The real tragidy is the devestated family members who had to discover the poor guy in a pool of his own blood. Years of therapy and antidepression medication untill afer 5 or 6 years they hang themselves. Yeah sure this horror story doesn't happen in ALL cases, but just one is one too many in my book and sadly I've seen this more than once. Would it not be kinder to those who survive and have to live with the aftermath if they were aware of what was going to happen, when, and how and that this was the wish of the person? That you can truely say they did not suffer because you know exactly what you gave them? Provide counseling and guidance before, during and after the fact so that they can give it a place in their lives that is less traumatic? Allowing someone to die of natural causes, or easing their suffering...Suffering is not just physical pain. Rebecca_76: well personally id feel more comfortable doing it for a family memeber or loved one than i would a stranger. i think its wrong. n you say about the couselling n medication ect dont you think that would apply to health professional/whoever administering a leathal dose of wotever...sorry ive had a drink i cant type. Its just not that straight forward to say oh its wot he wants therefore, its alright, n then go home n forget about it....n it never should be like that. People have their own religious beliefs too dont forget. Rebecca_76: Besides which a lot of people these days get sent home to die...n thats their request and families request...no one looks after you as well as your own family Rebecca_76: its like if everyone who committed suicide went to get permission to do it ...they wouldnt get it....they certainly wouldnt be given assistance...? jink88: When my Mom was dying of cancer, they sped up her morphine and knew exactly what day she would die. When she went to hospital they told us 3 days max and it went on for 2 weeks. It was so hard on the family and I was grateful when she finally died. If I had a terminal illness or an illness that would confine my life, I would be grateful for assisted suicide. I would also make it clear to my family that this is what I want. Rebecca_76: well thats wot im saying where would it end...if someone is dying, theres really no need to kill them is there....to make it easier for the family thats not good enough reason. Rebecca_76: well im not saying they should be left to suffer, they re usually heavily sedated in hospital n its peaceful. thats in the end stages, maybe leading up to then. But the fella whos been on the tv isnt about to die he could live on for years. Stewart75: Die with dignity is what I say........... lying in a hospital bed, heavily sedated...... is not dying with dignity.............. jink88: I totally agree. I have done it for my animals and believe it was so hard but there was no hope and they were suffering. Stewart75: Settle down Rebecca......... euthanasia is to put a stop to the pain and suffering......... and to a degree..... allows someone to die with dignity............ Stewart75: I'm not trying to 'wind you up' at all............ you seem to be doing that fine without my help.......... Do you understand the meaning of dignity, Rebecca...?....................... | Off Topic Chat Room Similar Conversations |
like why even bother saying anything!? 
You don't get it sweetheart.