II. Is Christianity Truth?

I always look through the viewpoint - If there is 'one-truth' of our exitance, there would have to be evidence to go alongside this truth. In saying this, i don't see any evidence surpassing Christianity as the 'one-truth'.

Scripture have been found in the Judeo-Christianity religion, that historians and archaelogist can agree with being around thousands and thousands of years old (dead sea scrolls).

Many archaelogist have found cities in the bible no longer in existence today.

Moses's miracles he performed were found on the walls of Egyptian hieroglyphics.

Nehamiahs wall has been found.

Today we have over 6-billion people, in 1985 we had 5-billion people, in 1800 we had 1/4-billion.. If you were to plot these dates on graph paper you would see that it has the origin of man's beginning aligning accuratly with the bible's discription of the flood (around 2700b.c.).

The fact there have been (by numerous civilizations) 270 flood legends, that portray accuratly with the bible.

As the bible was written, the scriptures were around 40 percent prophecy, they have been foretelling the future for 1000s of years, and if you read carefully, you will see different books from different eras (such as Daniel and Revelations) seem to carry where the other left off in prophecy.

Also, if you are familiar with Revelations, it has given us the last signs before the returning of Christ, and the end of times. We are unravaling to the bible's prophecy of the rise of the anti-Christ - He will rise speaking of great peace, and establish a one world government/currency/leader, many will look at him as God. The 'false-peace' will be held for 3 and a half years, then he will destroy the promised peace, and it will be hell on earth for the last 3 an a half years, it will be 'awful times as never seen before', most of the world will be dead before the end of this span. Then the return of Christ, and armageddon.

SpiritOne - "If the Apostle Paul ,that great pagan plagiarist copycat and deciever" (from 1st post).

Here is this 'idea' again, that is contrary to what history can tell us.

Jesus was real, Jesus came speaking 'Sin' and 'Conviction'. Paul was spreading Christ' mission, he was recieving no glory, but only death.

The problem I see on these forms is this. People seem to be reading a bunch of false garbage. Man made Scriptures, falsifications etc. etc.. They have been reading books that men have written, and are claiming to be the truth. One of these I have read, it is the gospel of St. Thomas(written about 200-250AD), and the gospels of some other men that claimed to be part of the 12 apostles. These too seem to have been proven to be forgeries.
If you look them up on the Internet and read them, and compared them to the Bible you will see that and not in harmony with the Bible. In some little way they are misleading and derogatory. Most of them are just false and degrading to God, Jesus.
There have been some books removed from the Bible. These books are called the hidden books(the Apocrypha). They can easily to be found if you look for them. Look them up and read them. Most are good stories, moral stories, but have nothing to do with salvation, or Jesus or God's message to mankind.
Here are the Apocrypha(hiding books)that were removed from the KJV.
* 1 Esdras (Vulgate 3 Esdras)
* 2 Esdras (Vulgate 4 Esdras)
* Tobit
* Judith
* Rest of Esther (Vulgate Esther 10:4-16:24)
* Wisdom
* Ecclesiasticus (also known as Sirach)
* Baruch and the Epistle of Jeremy (all part of Vulgate Baruch)
* Song of the Three Children (Vulgate Daniel 3:24-90)
* Story of Susanna (Vulgate Daniel 13)
* The Idol Bel and the Dragon (Vulgate Daniel 14)
* Prayer of Manasses
* 1 Maccabees
* 2 Maccabees

No matter what you say to Risen ,he won't budge ,he believes in a book that has been proven to be full of Lies,HalfTruths ,fables and contains very little of the TRUE Scriptures meant for man to live by . Even when given Solid Proof ,he still doesn't believe ,Now I know that DENILE isn't de river in Egypt ,but something the Religious lot practices daily .deny the Truth all you wish ,doesn't matter ,Truth still remains Truth . Risen ? Has Jesus ever spoken to you audibly ? or is he a voice in your head . Yahoshua the Messiah and our Creator Yahweh converse with Me all the time ,they are very much alive and in contact with the 'Little Flock' ,they are not the dead god who killed his son for the sins of Man [I chuckle everytime I hear that story ]


Adolph Hitler learned well from religions ,' Tell a lie over and over again ,reinforce the lie ,eventually when confronted with TRUTH ,it will be percieved as a Lie . Much like todays religions

Maximus - I agree with you on the Gnostics. They lacked any real narrative. It is (and was) viewed upon as nothing more than a malicious trick.

The Aprocrapha has never been part of the canon (to my knowledge). It is only used as a historical reference in some Catholic Bibles.

SpritOne - "budge ,he believes in a book that has been proven to be full of Lies,HalfTruths ,fables and contains very little of the TRUE Scriptures meant for man to live by . Even when given Solid Proof ,he still doesn't believe ,Now I know that DENILE isn't de river "


To clarify this, in terms of the Bible, the canon, what have you proven? I ask you to stick with the Bible, and not to venture 'way off course' with what Catholics do, the birthdates they picked, etc. Simply the Bible.


Your "i talk with God" - (and keep in mind Abraham, who was about as close to the LORD YHWH as possible, spoke to him only a couple times his whole life) - aside,

Could not anyone witness a change in 'life' or 'testimony' under Islam, Buddhaism, or some various cults? There may seem to be a problem once you encounter more than one person's claim.


No 'religion' on the face of the earth has the complexity, the historical inquiry, the revelation, as the Bible.

What legitimate reason could anyone give to reject Christianity? Everything people choose away from this is fighting 'against the grain'.

Risen, you ask "What legitimate reason could anyone give to reject Christianity?"

It's easy to answer that question.

You will of course disagree, but to me it is inconsistent, incoherent and unbelievable; and it also bears all hallmarks of being man made and manipulated.

You have made your choice and I have made mine. Let's leave it at that and don't criticize each other for it.

Thanks.

SpiritOne - "Also ,you quote what Jesus said but offer no REAL proof of his existance outside of the Bible . I have offered PROOF POSSITIVE of the Existance of YAHOSHUA the Messiah," (From 1st post).


You say this all the time, when i have already listed several historians that spoke of Jesus.

It is you, who goes on an on about things i have already discredited.

Legoguy - I am not criticizing anyone, only looking for constructive replies. If you do take offense, then that may have you observe your belief further, which is good.

Maybe i should have asked my question differently.


What else could be used to explain us?, What legitimate way are we here, living, and dying?, Can any claim be stronger than the Bible's?, and the evidence listed?


I am not in a competition, just looking for constructive replies.

Risen, Lego, Spiritism explains everything better than Christianity and any other traditional religion can, although some Eastern faiths are partly on the same track.

We don't need any bible or holy scriptures to tell us how to live as long as we follow the laws and doctrines of Spiritism, which explain why we are here, where we are going; and why good and bad things happen in our lives.

According to them, it doesn't change anything what you believe in or not as long as you choose a destructive lifestyle over a constructive one, like I did before I started to understand the greater truths.

This life is merely one in a seemingly endless row of existences that we may choose to use wisely or waste. In between incarnations, we reside in the Spirit World to contemplate our development so far and decide - in cooperation with Divine Providence and our Spirit Guides - the nature of our next sojourn in the flesh.